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Hank Alvarez

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Sounds like an orgy doesn't it? Well, don't get all excited because it's not. This has been a brain fart of mine for a while now. I have a rather interesting group of eight close friends and in the near future we may include two more. The two on the fringe are nice folks, they just live too far away and it's not always convenient for them to join us for bar-b-cues and parties, but they do mix well.

We range in ages from forty to, if you can believe it, there's one that's actually two weeks older than me. He's 68 and two months!. We're all happily married, I think. At least we've all been married for a long time. What makes this group truly unique is that we're all pretty well educated and I think like minded when it comes to sex. We're all long time residents of southern California and pretty well rooted here. We're all basically liberal in most respects and we've all been surprisingly candid about our feelings when it comes to topics of a sexual nature.

I think I'm still the resident "dirty old man" by virtue of the fact that I have the best porn collection. I'm trying to get them interested in joining and responding to the Forum individually because they made what I think were some the very thoughtful comments when I passed along some of our dilemmas. Some of them may well have already done it. What with the anonymity of on line monikers I wouldn't know.

What I want to do is fly some of your comments and queries that piqued my interest by them when we get together. They make for some pretty interesting discussions and I'd like to take a consensus on how they feel as a group. I've already done it with some of your posts. What do you think of the idea? I'd report back to you and I think we'd get some pretty interesting reactions, probably better  than what you're getting now from one old fart, me. What do you think of the idea? Would some of you possibly be willing to do the same in your neck of the woods? I'm not trying to start another civil war but I think it would be interesting to see the different reactions from the various parts of the country and being more than one person I think it would have more weight. Hank   
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Go for it Hank - let's spice things up around here.
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Ok Hank, I'll use your test group. I've always wanted to know, at what age do you think people actually stop having sex? Have you seen your own sex drive decline with age or has it remained exactly the same or is it stronger?
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Great idea, Hank! I'm always interested in other peoples opinions and solutions. Dreamer and I were talking last night about having friends that we could do things with (not necessarily sex)...but couples we could travel with...go out to dinner with...things like that there.

You put the questions that come up out there and I will try to give you answers from the southern point of view (not Southern California...altho I did live there).

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Studley and Pecos:
Even though I hate to admit it, I think your your sex drive does definitely decline with age. Physically you're just not the man you were twenty or thirty years ago. I still think about it a lot and I know I enjoy it with my wife as much as I ever did but it takes a lot more to get me going. Even though I still have the desire I notice that it's not as frequent as it was.

I think we become a lot more tactile, if that's the right word, but if my partner is still willing to "reach out and touch me," I'm still interested and I think that turns her on. Thank God that when she touches me old faithful still rises to the occasion or I'd really have a problem.

Of course that's a two way street and we have to show our mates that the "dirty old man" still wants her. 

Unfortunately, what I think you will notice is that without a break, the second and third time in a night, can be difficult without one of those little blue pills.

I don't mean to shirk this off to your partner but if she's not a real smart lover you could have a problem. I'm grateful that mine is a both cerebral and considerate and I hope yours is too.  Hank
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Hank Alvarez

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Roadie:
Thanks. I'm glad you got my drift on what's going on in my patio and I hope everyone else did too. We socialize together but we're all married and happy with our mates. I feel about mine like Paul Newman said about Joanne Woodward in an interview, "If you know you've got steak you don't go looking for hamburger?" I think we're all in love and faithful to our mates  and I know the guys are all comfortable with each other. We know no one is going to try to raid each other's hen house when we're not looking. I was afraid people would think that we were a bunch of old lecherous swingers, which we're not. I think two of the couples are way too religious for that. We do take our vows seriously and don't want to screw up a good thing.

We get together pretty much on a monthly basis as the gals like to scrap book and the guys go to Harbor Freight Tools or make beer. Later when we fire up the bar-b-cue and sit down to eat it does make for some interesting conversations. I'm sure we have some differing points of view but after hearing some of the repressive things that are going on in the "bible and the rust belts" I'm really glad that I live in Southern California. Earthquakes, fires, floods and all.

We definitely have our problems out here in "the wild west" but we have a much more comfortable, politically liberal, environment. I'm afraid I couldn't hack it where some of you live. When the conservative religious right tries to tell me how and when to have sex and they try to mess with my porn my only comment is for them to go fuck themselves.

Of course  it's not Fantasy Land at Disney Land in Anaheim either. We couldn't stop the nosy bastards from outlawing gay marriage. Go figure. I made a sign that said, "Vote for gay marriage. Why should the gays have all the fun." I did that just to piss off my religious fanatic neighbor who's sign read the opposite. It can be fun out here though. Hank  
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Originally Posted by Hank Alvarez
Even though I hate to admit it, I think your your sex drive does definitely decline with age. Physically you're just not the man you were twenty or thirty years ago. I still think about it a lot and I know I enjoy it with my wife as much as I ever did but it takes a lot more to get me going. Even though I still have the desire I notice that it's not as frequent as it was.

I think we become a lot more tactile, if that's the right word, but if my partner is still willing to "reach out and touch someone," I'm still interested and I think that turns her on. Thank God that when she touches me old faithful still rises to the occasion or I'd really have a problem.


Totally agree Hank.  I used to get hard with the least bit of visual stimulation but now it pretty much takes direct contact.  I never could go more than once/session but at least I can still do it without pills.
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Hank, what a great idea. It's amazing what tidbits you can uncover when you are comfortable enough with your friends to talk openly and honestly about sexuality and sexual health. Please do continue to provide some feedback.
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Hank Alvarez

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Here's an interesting postscript to my original idea. We've all been very candid about a lot things but when I polled them individually to formalize our responses two of them surprisingly opted not to. They still may do it individually and anonymously here in the Forum on their own. I hope they do, but the bottom line is that they said no. I was surprised and disappointed. I always hoped that with age comes wisdom and with wisdom comes the willingness to share. Go figure. Hank
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