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There has been much debate over the boy on boy kiss (among other sexual things) that occured during Adam Lambert's AMA performance. (do a search on it - it's everywhere) Apparently, the general concensus is that a girl-on-girl kiss is less offensive to the masses than a boy-on-boy kiss. Why? I want to know why.

How do you feel about it? Did you see the performance? I watched it online the day after because by the way the performance was described, I was expecting an orgy on stage! Sadly, I had to turn down the volume because the music was terrible, in my opinion. But I think the performance catered to the lyrics, which I can't confirm, and it looked badly choreographed. Like he had been forced to do it. But, I think he's kind of a rookie so I'll cut the kid some slack.

Back to the subject, though. I read today that Baba-Wawa included him on the Most Fascinating people list, but made a stink about re-airing the kiss scene. She didn't flinch, however, when showing a Lady Gaga girl on girl kiss scene. (God I feel like a teenager even writing about celebrities)

So, my question is still...why? What's your take on a FF kiss versus an MM kiss? Is one more acceptable to you? And why?

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My take is kiss away...either F on F or M on M...but it is not one of my favorite things to watch. I have not seen the
Adam whats-his-name kiss...but I didnt look it up nor do I care to.

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There has been much debate over the boy on boy kiss (among other sexual things) that occured during Adam Lambert's AMA performance. (do a search on it - it's everywhere) Apparently, the general concensus is that a girl-on-girl kiss is less offensive to the masses than a boy-on-boy kiss. Why? I want to know why.

How do you feel about it? Did you see the performance? I watched it online the day after because by the way the performance was described, I was expecting an orgy on stage! Sadly, I had to turn down the volume because the music was terrible, in my opinion. But I think the performance catered to the lyrics, which I can't confirm, and it looked badly choreographed. Like he had been forced to do it. But, I think he's kind of a rookie so I'll cut the kid some slack.

Back to the subject, though. I read today that Baba-Wawa included him on the Most Fascinating people list, but made a stink about re-airing the kiss scene. She didn't flinch, however, when showing a Lady Gaga girl on girl kiss scene. (God I feel like a teenager even writing about celebrities)

So, my question is still...why? What's your take on a FF kiss versus an MM kiss? Is one more acceptable to you? And why?



I saw his performance ))) brave boy ))
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I don't understand why, because I think it's kind of sexy for two hot men to get it on, but I wouldn't ask a boyfriend to make out or fuck a guy in front of me like some guys are with their girlfriends. I'm kind of a hypocrite for saying this but it bugs me when guys are so into female on female action. But then I've had some bad and not so sexy experiences with bisexual women so that could be part of it.
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I think it has to do with the idea that women are objects. Straight men can objectify the girl-on-girl kiss, but not the guy-on-guy kiss. IT's different because they're thinking with two different body parts
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I find that a lot of women (straight and gay) find it arousing to see two men make out. The guys? Fewer and much farther between.
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I don't understand why G on G action is OK for most men, and B on B action is not. My Man is not a homophobe by any stretch. He likes girl on girl action in porn ect (but will change the scene, if I ask, as I am not really into it)

We were watching some vintage porn a few weeks ago, and in the middle of a regular het scene, an other guy comes into the room (ON the video) and starts going down on the other guy. My Man starts going, "OMG, OMG, he's giving that other guy head, OMG. get the remote. Where's the fucking remote! AUghghggh!" I started laughing, because I have never reacted like that to a girl on girl scene. He said, "That's different." "How?" I wanted to know. "You chicks are always touching each other."  Really? Not like that.  WTF?

No, I can't explain it, but I think Adrianna is close.

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I haven't really had close friendships with women to have a strong, burning desire to touch them sexually. Very few times have I felt that way. And with all this G on G hoopla, the desire is becoming less and less for me.
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Princess, I think it's a trend. The whole "Sappoitic" thing.  I have friends who are lesbians and bi women and they don't like it, either.

Acceptance is one thing. But, making something "cool" when it isn't YOUR thing to own only harms real lesbians and bi women, IMO. It objectifies them into this fantasy idea which has no basis in reality.

The whole "I kissed a  girl" thing is great.......if you are a lesbian or bi.  When het women do it, they are just vying for attention, and it is obvious to most real lesbians and bi women.




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Personally, I have no problem with anyone making out with anyone. I don't particularly care for it when girls label themselves as bi just because they kissed a girl. Bi is a very distinct label and I think it is pretty rare to find a truly bisexual person.
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Right. I remember when I was a Moderator on a forum a while back some of the younger girls would claim they "identified as queer." And when some of the Lesbian girls questioned them NONE of these other girls had ever had sex with an other woman or anything close to it (some admitted they weren't even attracted to women in any ways)  and some were married or in long term relationships with men! It pissed the Lesbians off to no end.

It would be like me saying, "Oh, I identify as Black." when one is obviously Caucasian. You can't just to that because "It's cool." (I'm quite happy being my light cafe latte Mediterranean self.)

If one is into it, I say go for it. BECAUSE you dig the person and feel an attraction to them, Not just so you can say, "I kissed a girl."

A close friend of mine is a true bisexual woman, (she was married to a man, and is now in a life partnership with a full on lesbian woman)  and this drives her to distraction!

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What am I missing here? Before and after a visit I kiss my sons on the cheek as I did when they were little and my parents did me. That's a lot different than the ones I put on the wife. HHH
 
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Sorry, don't mean to bump an old thread but when I visiting my new college today I met a girl who claimed she didn't see anything wrong with two girls making out but she was grossed out two guys making out. She had this weird theory that gay men who fucked animals caused AIDS? WTF, that's far from true. I explained to her that some straight people engage in beastality. Like a lonely straight farmer boy fucking a sheep, lol. And of course she was grossed out by that. I live in the bible belt so it's not weird for me to find homophobic people on campus. The real surprise is when you find a lot of openly gay people nearby.
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A lot has happened in the past eight months and I think even at my advanced age I may have learned a few surprising things about kissing. If you watched the love scenes between Tom Cruise and Kelly Mc Gillis in "Top Gun" and you didn't get excited then I think there may be something wrong with you. There's a chemistry there between those two that almost set the screen on fire but I think goes far beyond kissing. But boy on by or girl on girl just doesn't make my boat float.
Months ago I told you about a lunch I had with a friend who claims to be openly gay and when we started talking about oral sex, blow jobs I pointed out some of the failings I saw in straight porn scenes. He agreed and suggested I watch some gay porn where he assured me the technique was different and better. I didn't find that to be true and frankly I was turned off by the frequent sight of two big burly guys trading spit to warm up. In all fairness I have the same reaction seeing two women exchanging romantic kisses.
I did duplicate a few of the gay videos he recommended and I added them to my collection along with some of the all girl/girl ones I've had for years. I've watched the girl/girl ones on occasion because of something a lesbian friend once said, "That only a woman knows how to make love to a woman," and I've always wanted to improve my skills. I'm not apt to watch either very often as I still prefer watching hetero sex scenes but I've seen a lot of things in both that I think we all need to consider.
Guys on guys is something the ladies might want to see because the guys do pay a lot more attention to his balls than you see in most hetero scenes. Surprisingly, I didn't see as much attention paid to the prostate in the guy films as I thought I would, although they do tease the anus a lot more than the ladies do.
As far as the girls are concerned they do seem to be more touchy feely  and concerned with foreplay, where as the guys just go right for the muff. As far as the kissing was concerned, if it's with the same sex, I'm afraid it just doesn't do it for me. But if it's applied to the genitalia of either gender, along with a little nibbling, it can be wonderful. What do you think?
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In my experience, men seem a bit more "goal oriented" while women tend to take their time and enjoy the scenery. Speaking of Top Gun, I guess that kiss didn't do much for Kelly McGillis since she's married to her female partner.
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